Concise Minutes - Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee

Meeting Venue:

Committee room 4 Tŷ Hywel and video

Conference via Zoom

Meeting date: Thursday, 15 May 2025

Meeting time: 09.30 - 15.30
This meeting can be viewed
on Senedd TV at:
http://senedd.tv/en/15088

Hybrid

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Attendance

Category	Names
Members of the Senedd:	Llyr Gruffydd MS (Chair) Janet Finch-Saunders MS Heledd Fychan MS (In place of Delyth Jewell MS) Carolyn Thomas MS
Witnesses:	Emma Pinchbeck, UK Climate Change Committee Aaron Hill, Confederation of Passenger Transport (CPT) Cymru Dr Eoin Devane, UK Climate Change Committee Scott Pearson, Coach and Bus Association Cymru Gemma Lelliott, Community Transport Association Caroline Wilson, Green Dragon Community Transport Richie Davies, Voluntary Emergency Service Transport (VEST) Bev Mather, Denbighshire Dial-a-Ride David Bithell, Welsh Local Government Association (WLGA) Richard Cope, Monmouthshire County Council Katie Wilby, Flintshire County Council John Forsey, Powys County Council
Committee Staff:	Marc Wyn Jones (Clerk) Elizabeth Wilkinson (Second Clerk) Lukas Evans Santos (Deputy Clerk) Katie Wyatt (Legal Adviser) Andrew Minnis (Researcher) Matthew Sutton (Researcher)

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1 The UK Climate Change Committee - Carbon Budget 4 Briefing

1.1 The Committee received a private briefing from The UK Climate Change Committee.

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2 Introductions, apologies, substitutions, and declarations of interest

2.1 The Chair welcomed Members to the meeting.

2.2 Apologies were received from Julie Morgan MS and Joyce Watson MS. Apologies were also received from Delyth Jewell MS and Heledd Fychan MS substituted.

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3 Stage 1 scrutiny of the Bus Services (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Bus Operators

3.1 The Committee received evidence from Confederation of Passengers Transport Cymru and Coach and Bus Association Cymru.

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4 Stage 1 scrutiny of the Bus Services (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with Community Transport Association and transport operators

4.1 The Committee received evidence from Community Transport Association Cymru, Green Dragon Community Transport, Voluntary Emergency Services Transport and Denbighshire Dial-a-Ride.

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5 Papers to note

5.1 The papers were noted.

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5.1 Inter-Institutional Relations Agreement

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5.2 Welsh Government Draft Budget 2026-27

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6 Motion under Standing Order 17.42 (vi) and (ix) to resolve to exclude the public from items 7 and 9 of this meeting

6.1 The motion was agreed.

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7 Consideration of evidence received under items 1, 3 and 4

7.1 Members considered the evidence heard under items 1, 3 and 4.

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8 Stage 1 scrutiny of the Bus Services (Wales) Bill - Evidence session with the Welsh Local Government Association and Local Authorities

8.1 The Committee received evidence from the Welsh Local Government Association, Association of Transport Co-ordinating Officers Cymru, Flintshire County Council and Powys County Council.

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9 Consideration of evidence received under item 8

9.1 Members considered the evidence heard under item 8.

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